Justice and Mercy #35 - Doug Pagitt
Posted by Tim Reed, Owosso MI on May 22nd, 2008
2008
May 22
Episode 35 of the Justice and Mercy Podcast, where Doug Pagitt discusses his new book, Seeds of Compassion, and Solomon’s Porch.
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May 22nd, 2008 at 12:48 pm
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May 28th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Hi i’m truely one of the people Doug mentions, i got saved at 15 through reading Nicky Cruz book and then it basically went downhill..I have never been comfortable around Christians or church always felt outside looking in..
So basically at the time i got saved i also wandered off,i got involved in EVERYTHING different faiths different sexuality the full works,and to this day i’m outside…
But i just don’t get it from Doug,i’m Mr Working Class,all my circle are unsaved and were from unsaved families ,and i get the impression were the type of people he would hope to appeal too,but i just come away feeling cold..
May 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
PS When you asked him about Seeds of Compassion,and if they were concerned about other Christian groups, he said yes because some Catholics are fundamentalist and believe their the only way,he obviously quotes that as a neagtive, so if you follow the logic is he saying its wrong to believe there’s only one route to God ? Or that he didn’t want the truth to be compative?
BTW i didnt think its wrong for them to go,just what they were or wern’t perpared to say
May 28th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Andy,
I think what he meant was the same concern applied across the board due to the commonality of that belief. What he held as negative was attitude that because we have that belief we should dominate the conversation, and rudely not allow anyone else to speak.
May 28th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Hi Andy,
Thanks for sharing your story. I had troubles in my youth as well (still am young though!) with the Christian community. I eventually found that the only place I can have true acceptance is with Jesus.
May 28th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Thks David!! Hey is that you on the tape Tim ? You don’t sound how you type rofl..
Maybe its just me with Doug ,he comes across as those guys who start smoking pipes at 16 haha like you’d need a degree to just go to his church
May 28th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Myabe are give Dougs book a go..My pastor (i go to Calvary on and off) hes pretty cool guy told me to read Millers book,i had a read of it in the bookstore yesterday, he seems very “normal” i really got where he was coming from,i just ordered it on amazon…
May 28th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I had to laugh as I could say something about Doug’s critics not even beginning to understand what level Doug starts out with let alone what level of conversation he can go to. They seem lost with the simplest things.
iggy
May 28th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
They seem lost with the simplest things.
I resemble that remark
Seriously though maybe he could try and be a tad more simpler and to the point, maybe thats why he suffers so much bad pr?
May 28th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
“Consider the lilies” would be a good benchmark for my intelect,sometimes simple is good
May 28th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Hi Andy,
That’s not me on the podcast. Well I haven’t heard it yet, but I certainly haven’t done one
May 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Ok well to be fair the interview was one of his more clearer one’s,i followed it up with a debate with him and Bob Dewaay man alive it was painful…
Its Tim i think Dave?
anyhow i’m rambling (night shift) bye all
May 28th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Andy,
Yeah that’s me on there. I’ll try to type more like I sound in the future
May 28th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
This might help some understand how Doug communicates…
May 29th, 2008 at 11:05 am
thks for link Iggy