a public apology
Is it proper to make a comparative apology? If so, then I must repent of any accusations of hyper-fundie-ness, bitterness, or anger that I have made about Ken or Ingrid. I’ve found someone who makes them look like Joel Osteen on uppers.
A few days ago, a commenter on my last post noted that the discerners “are now equating rudeness, mean-spiritedness, and nastiness with … godliness!” I sent him a note to ask where specifically the text (that he quoted as proof) came from. Hang on to this link if you ever need to induce vomiting.
I popped over there and asked a quick question. I got a response from the blog author. I say “response” purposefully, because it wasn’t anywhere close to an answer. But that’s OK.
The statement that “inspired” this post, though, was buried in that response (emphasis mine):
If a person is a student of the Bible he will readily find that the Bible is for the most part a negative book, of wrath, judgment, and condemnation.
What a sad existence. If that’s Christianity, include me out.
What am I saying? He probably already has.
April 8th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
*But the servant of the Lord must not strive, but be gentle unto all men…
*Speak the truth in love…
*But the greatest of these is love…
*Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt…
*Render not evil for evil…
*To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men. For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hating and hating one another. But after that the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us…
How can we preach Christ in wrath and anger? Speak about judgment to be sure, but be clothed with humility and like Paul with “much tears”. It is an endorphin rush to reprove and rebuke while imagining ourselves as the direct mouthpiece for God, but it must be tempored by the “whole counsel of God” which is self indicting as well.
Without God’s unreasonable grace, we are all “out” as you say Brendt. Now I’d duck if I were you!
April 8th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
What was that about rushing dolphins?
April 8th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Is that another one of Iggy’s sites? That’s
hilarioussad!April 8th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
So, Jesus absorbed all of God’s wrath on the cross, but not quite I guess, if God is still mad. It boggles my mind really. Either Jesus completed the work on the cross, or He didn’t.
So remember - God loves you, and He wants to kill you…
April 8th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
THAT should be a bumper sticker, but insert the word “also.”
God loves you, and also He wants to kill you.
April 8th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
From indywatchman’s site:
If this Indywatchman is an approved watchman for God, then why has’t he died for Christ yet, like the apostles? And since when did God need watchmen? Can’t God defend himself?
April 8th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
well, according to the logic of the quote, if God can’t defend himself and thus needs watchmen, then he is obviously a “patsy for the devil.”
April 8th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
And most of the martyrs went to their death with praise on their lips, while these blog frogs envision themselves as electron warriors, pounding a keyboard for Jesus.
“Jesus and all the Apostles, except John, were killed for their directness in presenting the truth, ”
Jesus laid down His life and was murdered at the hands of His Father because of His love for us. The others will killed for their faith as they went throughout the world preaching the gospel. So if you REALLY don’t have the fear of man, and you want to follow in the apostles footsteps, sell all you have and move to Darfur.
Waiting…
Waiting…
I didn’t think so…post on!
April 8th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Chris,
No, it is not one of m sites… but he is good on the satire isn’t he… oh… wait… I just looked at it again and he is not doing satire… oh my he is serious…
Golly, now I know who I have been channeling!*
iggy
*Channeling is not a “Christian” thing, but since I am emergent and though I don’t do Yoga but see nothing wrong with “Christian” Yoga, I figure why not expand! So I am off to channel an ODM spirit while doing my “stretching” that looks like Yoga but is not cuz I am just stretching… though I am in the Lotus position, I am just stretching… Is that you Shirley? Miss McClain? I was Cleopatra you say? But I thought you were…. hmmm… we must be twin souls then!
April 8th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
i hate hate hate it when Shirley MacLaine tries to “help” me when i’m doing non-Christian yoga. (i do vinyasa…it’s painful…)
my mom calls Yoga “posing.”
which makes it sound like “modeling.”
which, though challenging, is not as difficult as vinyasa Yoga.
April 8th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
So since I really don’t do Yoga, am I a Yoga Poser?
hehe
iggy
April 8th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Your mom calls you a poser. Haha.
April 8th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
she didn’t call me a poser last night.
*oh snap!*
April 8th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
I wish I was as niave as Brendt! Ask Nathan, every time he lifts his head up he gets shot!
April 8th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Apparently, He didn’t. Hmmm, and the ODMs are always going on about false teachers spreading “another gospel”.
April 8th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
I’m so naive, I don’t even know why Rick said I was naive.
Context, please?
April 8th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
well, He was almost finished, but then He decided to hand it off to Ken & Ingrid…
April 8th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
You were surprised at the viscousness of some blogger. That guy is not some isolated case, he runs a blog home cell group!!
Ask Iggy, he’s not even saved! Brendt, get ready for the second semester! I was once niave as well, then I suggested that guys like me who see some wrong things in the church need repentance and more love ourselves. That is where I realized how niave I was!!
When you turn the gun on the players in the same room they take it away from you.
April 8th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Actually Rick, I am trying to help spread the rumor I am not saved so I can reach more non Christians…
iggy = )
April 8th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
I’m not a Yoga Poser, I’m a Yoda Poser….
hmmm, a heretic, I am. And yet, the truth I will tell. Yes. Rudeness is the path to the dark side. Rudeness leads to self-righteousness. Self-righteousness leads to hate. Hate leads to creating your own discernment blog. Discern or do not discern … there is no try.