Agreeing with Ingrid
Posted by Neil on Mar 29th, 2008
2008
Mar 29
Every once in a while someone posts a comments accusing “us” of never agreeing with anything Ingrid posts on her ODM site. I’m not sure what this charge is supposed to prove other than maybe we’re just trolls or knee-jerks… anyway, when the charge is made “we” usually respond with a bit about her use of guilt-by-association, caustic style, her condescension, her… well, you know.
But here is a post that is really something we (or at least I) can agree on, something of which we should be aware. Though, quite frankly, if I had a family member caught up in it I think I’d send them elsewhere for help.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Neil - just what is it that you believe Ingrid is speaking about.
(Just so everyone knows I reject the gramatical rule about not ending a sentence with a preposition. That rule is outdated and can be ignored.)
March 29th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Rick,
You can’t just decide that a rule is outdated and change it just because you want to. If anyone could just change any rule they wanted to, just think what our society would be made of.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Inq…
That was turly profoundly funny and witty comment… = )
Yet in it was a profound truth…
igs
March 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I do often agree with the main points that Ingrid states… some girls dress improperly, in some churches if I was to teach I would wear a suit and use their pulpit… I appreciate the style of music I prefer… and so on.
I agree that there is a blindness over American Christianity… (that being in its very name the problem!)
I agree that some people need to be told they are on the wrong path…
now I do not agree in stating all these things must be done my way and using terms like whores and such to make my point.
iggy
March 29th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
I do not belong to any society on this earth! I also reject the rule that you cannot move your golf ball out of someone elses divot!
March 29th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
ick.
I don’t like that “you can substitute Christ” talk…
and I identify with the EC…
so much for all the sturm und drang.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
well, it would just all be gay whores with their dangling…participles?
March 30th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
As far as I know Oprah is a Christian. She was raised baptist and still holds to the belief in Jesus Christ.
I’m with Rick. So again Neil. “just what is it that you believe Ingrid is speaking about?” What’s wrong with Oprah?
March 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I do not know the eternal standing of anyone except myself. Hoiwever, Oprah does not teach Biblical Christianity and many of those new spiritual teachings are being taught in open and subliminal forms in the evangelical community.
Sometimes poison tastes sooo good.
March 30th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Inquisitor: As far as I know Oprah is a Christian. She was raised baptist and still holds to the belief in Jesus Christ.
RA: Uhm, actually she doesn’t. Her “Jesus” is the Jesus of the new Age. Jesus, according to Oprah, came to show us all how to receive the Christ Consciousness. God, to Oprah, is an impersonal energy force, All, One, Source, Consciousness — etc. etc. etc. She belittles and attacks traditional Christianity. So, I’d have to say, “dey ain’t nuttin’ be dare dat be Christian.”
March 30th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Oh, and Tolle’s book is bad bad bad. Worst of all he quotes scripture repeatedly, telling you what it REALLY means.
Esotericism FTL.
R. Abanes
March 31st, 2008 at 6:08 pm
The issue isn’t as much with Oprah as the book - it’s basically neo-Buddhism and as such is incompatible with historic Christianity.
Neil
March 31st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Can we all agree that the entire mess with Prrah is unbiblical?
Please.
March 31st, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Rick,
I was amazed to hear recently, in a grammar course, that ending a sentence with a preposition is not always wrong. My understanding ( I wasn’t paying that great attention) is that if the object of the preposition is in the sentence then it is fine.
So for example, “Brick is what the house is made out of.” would be an okay sentence.
Anyway, I wasn’t listening well enough to understand exactly what the rules are, but it was nice to know that some of the prepositions left hanging at the end of my sentences might actually be fine. (The problem is that probably only college grammar teachers know that.)
March 31st, 2008 at 7:36 pm
See Amy, we’re both postmoder!!
Grammatically speaking.
April 1st, 2008 at 12:44 am
Since English is a combo of Germanic and romance languages it is often preferred and less awkward to dangle a participle in the mother tongue. German is such a language.
I have to agree with Mr. Abanes: Oprah finds it absolutely astounding that some of us would still believe that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, and and that he is the only way to the Father. You can probably get a little snippet of her in action on watchman.org
April 1st, 2008 at 9:19 am
Neil - just fyi, Although Tolle certainly borrows from Buddhism, he is actually pulling much much more heavily from Hinduism (Advaita Vedanta school). A fine point, to be sure, but nonetheless important. He has a very, very Hinduistic approach. One main body of teachers are Hindu-ish gurus, rather than Buddhist. For example. J. Krishnamurti and Ramana Maharishi.
Now, I need to go back to my bed of nails.