what we choose to report

Posted by Nathan on Feb 27th, 2008
2008
Feb 27

Looks like the story is all in what we choose to report.  So, which is the truth, ODMs?   Is Driscoll the raving heretic or the reforming pastor?

8 Responses

  1. Henry (Rick) Frueh Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 6:34 am

    Neither, bur closer to the former and well within the “raving” neighborhood.

  2. Tim Reed, Owosso MI Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 7:09 am

    Neither, bur closer to the former and well within the “raving” neighborhood.

    Rick, how much of Driscoll have you listened to? While he does rave from time to time, I doubt you could characterize him as raving.

    And though he is a heretical Calvinist, he’s no more heretical than the average Calvinist.

  3. Mike Corley Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 7:34 am

    I think my thoughts on the Mark’s ministry have been clearly documented, and for anyone who cares to know what my opinions are can visit my blog site. Is he controversial?…yes. Does he say things that are “edgy”?…yes. Has or does you do or say things that he wished later he had not said, or have stated differently?…yes. Is he emergent is the vain of McLaren, Pagitt, Bell and Jones?….no he isn’t. He is striving to be faithful and is committed to to the Gospel?…Yes I believe he is.

    Don’t expect the controversy to go away any time soon though.

    PS When will you guys take me out of this ridiculous catergory of ODM? I would prefer to be simply known in the minister catergory.

  4. Chris L Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 7:43 am

    PS When will you guys take me out of this ridiculous catergory of ODM? I would prefer to be simply known in the minister catergory.

    Do you still write for CRN?

  5. ianmcn Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 7:49 am

    From Steve Camp’s post: This is the problem with those, like Driscoll, who claim to be Calvinistic, but are really more Arminian in their approach to evangelism;

    Translation: They do it.

  6. Henry (Rick) Frueh Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 8:42 am

    I believe I have listened to three of Driscoll’s sermons and have read more than that of his writings. I believe my “raving” characterization is generous. Don’t make me break out the heavy verbiage, Tim, or worse yet make a statement along the lines of “although Pastor Driscoll echews the emergent label, he still must be placed in the “Tim Reed” vein af evangelicalism.

    He may want to run back to “emergent”!

    Mike, I do not consider you an ODM in the same way as some others, however you are difficult to catagorize. I think you are very strong sometimes and then you are surprisingly benign at other times. I mostly enjoy your blog and with my observation of the mercurial nature of your perseptions I guess I would say that you are laboring to be fair.

    If I had your energy I would have tuled the world by now!

  7. nathan Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Mike is the Mark Driscoll of the ODMs :) He can run with both crowds, and still be edgy in all of them :)

  8. Matt B Says:
    February 28th, 2008 at 11:48 am

    The difference between Mike Corley and the ODMs is that Mike is a genuinely nice guy who you can have a healthy and productive disagreement with.