Bob Jones and Mitt Romney “Overcome Differences”
The Associated Press reports here that Bob Jones has endorsed Mitt Romney for President in 2008.
Stipulating that he does not agree with Mormonism, Jones was quoted as saying:
“As a Christian I am completely opposed to the doctrines of Mormonism,” Jones told the newspaper. “But I’m not voting for a preacher. I’m voting for a president. It boils down to who can best represent conservative American beliefs, not religious beliefs.”
Sounds similar to what Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice was trying to say when she suggested that Islam, Christianity, and Judaism:
“have an opportunity to overcome differences, to put aside grievances, to make religion a power of healing and a power of reconciliation, rather than a power of divisions.”
But apparently, the “editor” over at CRN.com doesn’t think so. You can read his/her comments here.
Since the leader of the last bastion of traditional fundamentalism is in the words of William Wilberforce, willing to act as a “co-belligerant” with a follower of Joseph Smith, I have to wonder if Jones’ ODM supporters will follow suit?
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October 17th, 2007 at 10:41 am
You know, Ingrid’s dad, Vic Eliason, VP and top dog of VCY America (sending the ODM message over the airwaves on over 80 stations nationwide) has an honorary doctorate from Bob Jones University. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
October 17th, 2007 at 10:45 am
It’s rather humorous that Jesus was a radical for suggesting that Jews ought to live in peace with the Samaritans - who were considered the anathema of all religions and peoples to the Jews - but people who claim to follow Jesus get bent out of shape when a public figure makes the same suggestion in a modern context…
October 17th, 2007 at 11:35 am
This is what politics does, invites compromise. A man who believes that Jesus was a created being and not God gets your vote because he can represent “conservative American beliefs”. He can be a blasphemer but if he is conservative God endorses him.
It is more than compromise, it is unbiblical and sin to endorse the spirit of anti-christ. Good thing we have a Republican president because he has kept abortion illegal since Reagan pushed to overturn Roe v Wade. The gospel is our calling, all the rest is glorified talk radio.
October 17th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Bingo Rick, Preach it brother. More Christians need to wake up to this reality.
Also, more Christians need to look at Ron Paul. Too bad the Christian Right is in bed with the elite in the Rep party or they would endorse someone who is radically different from the rest.
October 17th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Rick,
Did you notice also that it is not the “Christian Right Wing” anymore, but the “conservative American beliefs”?
Not sure what to think at this point but I do find it interesting.
ig
October 17th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
Also interesting to me is that Ingrid has connections with the Arminian based beliefs, let alone that Bob Jones is a false prophet as far as I am concerned… now does this mean that Ingrid is Pentecostal, thus she is also a “man-loving-semi-Palegian�
If so then she is “according to Ken Silva†an apostate… at least as much as I am…
Can someone sort that all out fro me?
Blessings,
iggy
October 17th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Well its very simple Iggy. Ken Silva’s owes most of his web traffic to having his web site pimped out by Ingrid, and so their supporters are loyal to Ingrid and so attacking her would drive his readers away. Why, his website would be as empty as his church if that happened!
October 17th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
Rick,
I find your position to be a bit inconsistent, unless you only work for Christians, or you only do business with other Christians. Personally, I’m not backing Romney but the guy I am backing I’m not asking to run my church, I’m asking him to run the country. While I agree that there America is by no means a “christian nation” whatever that is and my loyalty to the county is far behind my loyalty to God I am still part of this country.
October 17th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Bob Jones is not a false prophet but he is a legalist in orthopraxy and used to be a racist when they would not allow different races to date each other. That is racism no matter how you try and defend it as “God’s will”.
But the post points out what men are willing to compromise for political leverage. You want context? Democracy wasn’t even birthed when the New Testament was written. Could we trust God to give us His choice or must we intervene to promulgate His will. God is much more concerned that Jesus is Lord of the church than who sleeps in the White House.
Politics - a man made attempt to usher in God’s kingdom through manipulation and ungodly amalgamations intended to leverage Biblical morality without the regeneration of God’s Spirit in men’s hearts. Constructing legislative morality is a false religion of sorts and distorts the true essence of the gospel.
Some people now have the impression that a Christian is a person who is conservative, pro-life, anti-gay, and many other political views. Nothing could be further from the truth. Although Christians may hold those views, a Christian is a person who be faith has been born again into God’s kingdom by the grace that was offered on the cross of Jesus Christ. The moral issues we hold have come from the inside, we were not convinced by political pressure.
October 17th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
I understand your view, Joe. My country is not of this world, and if its inconsistency you are looking for my cupboard is full. I happen to have disowned politics but I am not angry at anyone. My view and my explanation of it is not meant to subliminally attack others or make anyone defensive.
It is my view and the more I personally study the Word the more I am convinced the church remains too connected with politics. I am not where Fred Phelps is yet, but he leads our Bible study on Wednesday nights!
October 17th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
No, that’s a self-serving definition of politics. Politics is man’s attempt to live together. What you’re advocating is anarchy. We can’t have a Theocracy today.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
I get all my political advice from Carmen.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
As in where in the world????
October 17th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
No, the opera.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Is this a joke? This is a joke right? now I am starting to question where you stand on this issue, Rick, with some of your recent posts…
Looking at the posts here I tend to learn to what Joe is saying. I am totally against a Theocratic form of government. I read the book American Theocracy by Kevin Phillips and he opened my eyes to the dangers of merging church and state together. This was directed more towards the problems with what happens to the state. Since I believe he doesn’t believe in God he didn’t even cover the corruption of the church when the state mixes with it.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
–Some people now have the impression that a Christian is a person who is conservative, pro-life, anti-gay, and many other political views. Nothing could be further from the truth. Although Christians may hold those views, a Christian is a person who be faith has been born again into God’s kingdom by the grace that was offered on the cross of Jesus Christ. The moral issues we hold have come from the inside, we were not convinced by political pressure.–
Considering how various aspect of the media have tried to distort Christians’ stands for life and morality as being hateful and (by their own unbiblical definitions) unchristian, the fact that some people have distorted views of Christians should not be wondered at.
And I grant, Christians have not exactly done themselves much good at times. Far too many financial and sexual scandals, far too much of shysters like Benny Hinn. In those aspects, the church has shot it’s own feet.
But there is no shame in being pro-life or anti-gay marriage, any more then someone like Isaiah or Jeremiah would have considered anti-idolatry.
We also have to keep in mind, “men love darkness rather then light, because their deeds are evil”. It’s easy to shunt aside the Christian message if you think Christians are hateful and bigoted, even if a large majority are not. Thus, focus on the few failures, and you can bottle up the rest as fakes and hypocrites, and ignore what they say.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Jeff - be on the alert for subtle humor. That reference to Fred Phelps is, as you will come to understand, is an obvious stab at humor. It helps the medicine go down!
October 17th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Thanks for the clarity, you were starting to concern me…….
October 17th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Rick,
As one who is in the Vineyard church, though not an expert here by far, I can tell you a few stories both personal and from afar of the damage of the Kansas City Prophets that Bob Jones is part of.
Of his prophecies, his accuracy is very low. In fact one source I have read stated one of his biggest prophecies was only about 66% accurate. In fact he is quoted as saying that “Rhema” (spoken word) will only be 2/3 accurate… in fact here is the quote on this…
Now, does that not sound a little fishy? Does it sound like he is a true prophet of God.. With only 2/3 accuracy… meaning that he has a 33% possibility of being wrong… and can you tell me where any of the stuff he taught right there is even biblical?
These are the same people who brought us The Toronto Blessing (I am a bit frustrating to some in my denomination when I speak freely on this topic).
Now if someone can give me this clear of an anti or extra biblical teaching on McLaren or Kimball or Tony Jones or eve Doug Padgitt, you might get my attention.
Be Blessed,
iggy
October 17th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Iggy,
Well, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
I actually some friends who are “on staff” at the IHOP (the “P” stands for Prayer, not Pancakes, for those that might not know), and I have suspected fishiness for a while. First, I don’t like being asked to donate money every year so someone can be a “full-time” prayer missionary, and overall there’s just some weird stuff.
I forgot you were involved with Vineyard.
October 17th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Iggy - wrong Bob Jones. The one that endorsed Romney is from South Carolina and runs Bob Jones University.
October 17th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Rick,
Well then, that is what he gets for having the same name! LOL!
I guess then I do not know enough about THAT Bob Jones to speak so boldly about.
Can I get a cautionary rebuke also? LOL!
Blessings,
iggy
October 17th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Neither as in the christian singer from the 80’s and 90’s…
I present “America Again”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KYtCanpBhVg
October 17th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
October 17th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Ron Paul is a freaking IDIOT! I can’t believe so many people are actually considering him a legitimate candidate! No…I don’t like the idea of any of the candidates right now, but the one that is farthest from my beliefs (and any common sense on the war whatsoever!) is RP.
Also, be careful how you throw the term “Christian Right”. I would actually consider myself somewhere between that and a libertarian…can we start a new group called “Moral libertarians”? Anyway, just to remind you that a variety of people read and write here. “Christian Right” doesn’t have to be a dirty word. I am Christian and I am right of center. Thus…
October 17th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I’m voting for Chris L.
October 17th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
I’m with Zan in not being excited about any of the candidates. I doubt I’ll vote at all. Maybe if Guiliani wins the nomination, just because I believe he’s committed to killing and capturing terrorists. I don’t really get that vibe from the others. Ron Paul is just the Dennis Kucinich of hte right, just with less stuff in his pockets.
October 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
chris (no last initial), that’s not Carmen, that’s Carman. Hence, if I had to guess, the silly opera and PBS references.
JohnD: “the last bastion”. My, aren’t we optimistic!
October 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Wow,
I watched that “God in America Again” and just had one question.
When did He leave?
This is like the person who says to me they want to be closer to Jesus… and I state, “He lives inside you, right? So how much closer can He get?”
Maybe I think weird, but I see that an all powerful God and and a truly sovereign God cannot be pushed out shoved out, left out or whatever… I see that God states that where sin abound Grace abounds even more, so if there is a country that has “turned their back on God” I see that God’s grace abounds on that country… until all are judged.
Surprised?
A person will live in the most Godless country so that he can represent God to that nation. That does nto mean the “nation” accepts Jesus, rather the people of that nation come into God’s Kingdom.
God does not come to live in our little nations… He comes to lead us into His Kingdom… God does not come to live in our little hearts and lives… He gives us a New Heart of Flesh and His Eternal Life.
We seem to have things so backward so forgive me if I am a bit strange as I find it also funny that same people who say this will all “Burn in the end anyway” are almost consumed by this nation as if it will not burn also.
Now I read in Revelation of John 15: 4.
I do not see one verse that God is in a Nation, I do see that all nations will worship Jesus…
I would rather be in God’s Nation, the New Israel and dwell in the New Jerusalem… than to be content in America.
Give me one verse of Scripture that backs that God lives in America and ever has or ever will…
I will show you verse after verse where nations will fall at the feet of God and worship Him as they are all brought under God in Jesus.
Be Blessed,
iggy
October 17th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Iggy -
nation = ethnos (ethnic people) not countries.
I am beginning a new group called:
“The separated followers of Jesus Christ”
If after all these years we haven’t yet figured out that all politicians lie and that God isn’t in politics we never will. Even no less than Cal Thomas repented of the Christian political movement, he said it has taken our focus away from Christ!
October 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Rick,
That group already exists
October 17th, 2007 at 11:35 pm
I’m no huge fan of Romney, as a matter of fact I think Mormonism is a little bit odd, but here’s what concerns me…
What ever happened to the idea of evaluating the candidate’s credentials based on the skill sets that apply to the specific job of running the country?
If I was a stockholder (major or otherwise) in a company, say Ford, for arguement’s sake, and the top slot was open, I’d want a job candidate capable of running a huge company in an ever changing global economy.
It would never occur to me to measure his ability to run a business based on his thoughts on gay marriage, abortion, or any of the hot button conservative christian issues.
Just run the business. And on some level, isn’t that still what running the country is all about? Worst case scenario…you somehow end up with a “Christian Candidate” dumb as a bag of hammers..but he appeals to the Religious Right, knowing how to say what they want to hear.
Who’s best interests are being served here? The country’s?
There’s a lot at stake here. And while the candidate’s morals and core values speak volumes about his or her character, I’m still more concerned about they’re ability to “run the business” of this country, and less about whether they think God created the earth in 6 hours, 6 days or 6 million years.
Again, would you ever find yourself saying, “Boy, I feel much more confident in the future growth and stability of United Airlines now that I know the new CEO is opposed to gay marriage”.
I’m not thrilled with any of the Republican candidates. But when I go in and cast my vote, I still want the guy to have the qualifications to do the big job ahead.
President and Minister are two very different job descriptions with two very different skill sets.
October 18th, 2007 at 12:46 am
Rick,
That makes my point even better, as God still does not reside in a man made nation… God can bless a nation, yet to say “God in America Again” makes me wonder at when was He in any Nation… He is the God to the Nations (Ethnos as in the Hebrews) yet God is never “in” a nation… as you point out He dwells now in His People… those of many ethnic and national backgrounds… and they are now part of His Kingdom.
Luther spoke of a dual citizenship where on one hand we have the citizenship of God’s Kingdom and also of the kings of this earth… Yet, I see more and more that I care less for this kingdoms kings, rulers, presidents and such.
Will it be that we are being judged IF Hillary gets into office?
Of will it be that we will continue to be judged for our poor choices of allies and be at war for who knows how long?
Which is the blessing and the curse? Having sons and daughters die at war in a foreign land or having Hillary as the first woman president?
Will we as “Christians” back a man who represents a god, and not even The God as we try to bring “God back in America”? I mean explain that one!?!?!
How can we be trying to force the hand of God in the first place? Is God sovereign or not? Can our votes for men sway God Almighty into hanging with us US citizens?
It all seems a bit shallow to me… like we lost sight of God well before “He left”…
Now, the same people that cry out that we need be obedient to God, miss that God is the one that makes nations rise and fall… They teach submission to leadership especially their own and then say that to turn against King George the head of the Church of England was nto a sin… to turn against them in their own church is, but to turn against King George is not?
It seems that America was born of rebellion against authority… this authority that God set over… in all other cases this is called rebellion, which the bible calls the same as witchcraft… funny huh?
We have religious leaders pushing candidates that are ungodly as they serve other gods, and then say we are trying to make a better world by getting “conservative family values” back in vogue…
Whose family?
Whose values?
Bob Jones and the Mormons who only in the last 60 years stopped saying black people are of the seed of Cain?
Maybe that is the connection?
Who knows?
Be Blessed,
iggy
And yes i am being ornery. LOL! But, I still have a sense of humor… so if you read this as I am in anger, read it again and hear my laughter…
October 18th, 2007 at 12:52 am
Notice the similarities?
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon107.html
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V120/N13/col13veena.13c.html
Just wondering… I mean if I was a conspiracy nut i could make up a few great ones over this… LOL!
Be Blessed,
iggy
I am out of town today so don’t tear me up too much. LOL!
October 18th, 2007 at 8:34 am
How can you say you are even close to Libertarian and call Ron Paul and idiot? You are obviously confused. Ron Paul stands with Christians on most all the moral issues. Except the war, and that is where I think Christians need to rethink what is going on in the Middle East. Greenspan recently confirmed that this war is more about Oil than anything else. This War on Terror is a farce, it is an non winnable war and will send this country to bankruptcy. Ron Paul is about change, why is it that most of us say we are not happy with the status quo, then when a person comes along with a different message we write him off as crazy? Ron Paul has a HUGE grassroots following; don’t let the controlled media make up your mind on which candidates are the best.
Also, when I refer to the “Christian Right” I am talking about the political/religious organization that has made its bed with the Republican Party and still endorses it even though it is clearly corrupt. I like to say that the “Christian Right” is neither.
Chuck Baldwin, who used to be part of the Moral Majority under Falwell, has a lot to say about this, he should know he was an insider. Google him if you ant more information.
October 18th, 2007 at 8:39 am
Food for thought Iggy, everyone is a conspiracy theorist, it just depends on which conspiracies you want to adhere too.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Do you realize that RP wants to do away with FBI & CIA and the Dept of Homeland Security, and then turns around and says that he isn’t against collecting information but he wants intelligent people interpreting that info? He won’t have any information to interpret, he won’t have a clue about what is going on in our world…oh wait, that is the way he wants it. He, at his core, is an isolationist. I know he warns against that, but look at the list of things that he wants to withdraw the US from and what his idea of security is. He wants to secure our borders, yes, but he also wants to eliminate the US presence in every other part of the world…well, why not just issue invitations to the terrorists to come to our side of the world! So what if other unstable countries have nuclear arms. So what if other unstable countries have increasing military strength. Just as long as none of our brave men and women have to die, and it doesn’t cost our country anything (right now), then we will just keep to ourselves, Thank You Very Much.
Kenn,
Really agree with you. My sentiments, too. And well-said about the diff’s between minister and president.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Zan,
You don’t seem to realize that our involvement around the world is what is causing many of these problems? The CIA, and the 911 commission report stated that Osama Bin Laden stated that our troops on their holy land is the cause of the hostility. There are a lot of things that RP wants to do and in a perfect world it would be great. The fact of the matter is, the dept of Home Sec, the Patriot Act, the Military Commission Act, warrentless wiretapping(on all Amercans), the National ID(in May 2008) have all been instituted since 911 in the name of terror. History is abundant with examples of governments imposing the use of terror as a means of controlling the masses. Do you feel more safe? I certainly don’t, even still it begs the question that I hear from so many Christians is that we need these Acts and depts. to “keep us safe”. As Christians with a secure eternity, what are you afraid of? Ron Paul’s idea are radical, so are most of the great leaders throughout history. He is waking up a generation of people that want to kick the government out of their lives.
It’s funny, I got a letter from the ACLJ yesterday about how the IRS wants to take away “free speech” from churches. My immediate thought was, what do you expect when you get special tax free status from the state? Did the church really think that the 501C3(I think that was it) statute was going to protect them from the state interfereing in their business?
Back to RP, I admit some of his ideas are radical and some even impossible to do. However, his message of freedom and liberty is refreshing. None of the others on the Right side of the isle have a different message from the current administration, if you think the status quo is good, then I say keep your head in the sand and vote Romney or Huckabee(the values voters choice).
October 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Well, if Osama Bin Laden said that’s the reason it must be true. I’m not for this war, but Jeff that argument is lacking. Men lie. Men who train other men to blow up innocent children lie more than car dealers. I’m not sure Osama is a credible source for us to base our political practices on.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Everytime I hear the argument that if we just stayed out of other people’s business no one would bother us I have to wonder if they’ve paid attention to history at all. that argument works up until the second we get bombed. The world is a smaller place than it has ever been and pretending that evil men won’t do evil acts towards us is naive. Please note, this wasn’t necesarily an endorsement of Iraq, it was a rejection of Ron Paul’s ridiculous foreign policy.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
No, I don’t think the status quo is good. That is why I subscribe to alot of the libertarian idea, in regards to dramatically decreased government.
The issue with the IRS is about the ability of churches to speak on overtly political matters. That is already a fact. It also doesn’t matter if a church has a 501(c)3 status…if they are a church or a church ministry, then they are naturally tax exempt. IRS Publication 557 “Although a church, its integrated auxiliaries, or a convention or association of churches is not required to file Form 1023 to be exempt from federal income tax or to receive tax deductible contributions…” If you want to learn more about the church v. IRS incident right here in Indianapolis, you can go to http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21727 for an interesting editorial about it. (The issue with them isn’t really free speech, rather withholding taxes for employees. Interesting and thought-provoking, nonetheless)
I wouldn’t be so quick to slam on “values voters” either. (btw, Huckabee withdrew.) I know a variety of “values voters” who just have different views on how and why they should vote. Consider James Dobson. I can’t be angry at him, even though I don’t agree with him. He MUST vote his conscience. They aren’t necessarily ignorant of the issues, nor do they stick their heads in sand (In general, i mean). They are just run more on their hearts and emotions, which in turn seems logical to them.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
Joe,
Yes, if Bin Laden says he is going to attack us in his 1996 fattua, and then he does in 2001, I think we can listen to what he has to say.
Tim,
Ron Paul’s foreign policy is not to interfere in others business, if we have followed his advice, Bin Laden would have been captured and we certainly wouldn’t be in Iraq. This current policy will destroy this nation, not only that but it is increasing the chances of future terrorism against us. True Tim there is evil men that will do eveil things but this current policy is not the way to address it.
Zan,
Brownback withdrew, not Huckabee. I get the two confused all the time….
October 19th, 2007 at 7:14 am
–The CIA, and the 911 commission report stated that Osama Bin Laden stated that our troops on their holy land is the cause of the hostility. –
I have to wonder what is meant by ‘holy land’. If that is some sort of way of saying we shouldn’t support Israel, well, ObL can have all the hissie-fits he wants.
–, if we have followed his advice, Bin Laden would have been captured and we certainly wouldn’t be in Iraq.–
I’m wondering how you get that. ObL could have been captured long ago, yes, but that was under Clinton, and for whatever reason he didn’t take him.
October 19th, 2007 at 7:43 am
How well did “staying out of others business” work in 1939, or in 1914? What RP and his supporters fail to recognize is that the world is inherently interconnected, now more than other, and a couple of oceans isn’t enough to keep us safe. Even less so now than ever before.
Oh? I seem to remember everyone regardless of political affiliation and sympathy saying that 9/11 was only the first of many attacks. While that may or may not be because of Iraq it certainly didn’t happen because terrorists gave up.
October 19th, 2007 at 8:00 am
Groan…
When did this place become “Crossfire”?
Why don’t you guys talk about something meaningful, like the new Radiohead album?
October 19th, 2007 at 8:08 am
Phil,
That silliest of seasons is almost upon us - it’s the four-year cycle which I, too, have gotten sucked into to a degree…
October 19th, 2007 at 8:48 am
WHOAAA! Chris L.,
“to a degree…” written, sheepishly, shyly, as though it just happened to catch you by surprise?
Oh, No! People! Do not be fooled by the man behind the green curtain! He may look small and innocent, but inside lurks the heart of a…well, an elephant, I guess, but the point is…politics is no little thing to Chris L. At least he admits it is a season of silliness. Can I point that out to him the night of the election next year when he is up all night logging votes for a political blog? hhmmmmm…
(i really do love you!
see…smiling!)
October 19th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Not to sound like the snotty drama kids in HS, but mainstream music bores me, at least right now. A3 has a new album coming out soon, which is exciting, and hopefully Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers just released No More Beautiful World, which I haven’t had the chance to check out yet. Both of those are good choices for musical goodness.
October 19th, 2007 at 8:58 am
I personally have been enjoying Linkin Park, Thrice and the like lately. Does that mean my music is boring to you Tim?
October 19th, 2007 at 9:03 am
Joe,
Yes, yes it does.
October 19th, 2007 at 9:30 am
Well, You are a new evangelical, apo$tat$e, $semi-pelagian, $mu$ic $nob!
October 19th, 2007 at 9:41 am
Hahhha.
I have become a music snob. I’m not sure how that happened, because I used to make fun of those people. If I ever start saying something about chord progressions and selling out just shoot me.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:07 am
I’m oiling my rifle now
October 19th, 2007 at 11:09 am
Joe, we both know that you keep your rifle oiled and ready to go at a moment’s notice. Just like Driscoll.
October 20th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
This thread exposes that there are only two productive points of view. What most of the comenters have, or my view - you choose. I am not anti-america, I am a-america.
I must admit to a sort of fleshly glee as I watch the senseless vitriol that will accompany next year’s political process. Legislative morality is a mirage and only provides a false sense of purpose for many Christians. President Hilary wll be the cowning event or the process, and according to some Chistian’s theology whoever gets elected will represent God’s will.
Let us pray for a move of God’s Spirit in our lives individually and collectively and leave the politics to Satan!