Being one who is very suspicious of the emergent/emerging movement as a whole I have another perspective than those of many of the discernment groups. If indeed the movement as a whole is moving away from the will of God, then are we to assume they are doing it on purpose? Do we contend that they are all demon possessed and meet behing closed doors to knowingly rip apart Christianity?

And if that is not true, and if the premise of the movement is as I suggested, than are they not our brothers and sisters in Christ being drawn away by deception and not cognisant of their wrong? And from that standpoint why would anyone attack them personally, and castigate them with creative name calling, and treat with scorn and contempt?

Are we so clairvoyant as to assign them our suspected motives? Some are husbands and fathers, do we give no consideration that maybe their wives and children will read what some write about them, to say nothing of Jesus Himself? Do we count their lives as nothing and dismiss the entirety of their Christian walk as worthless? I find it difficult to find Christ in such pompous disdain.

Why can there never be a substantive and even an aggressive confrontation about their teachings without attacking them personally? The body of Christ is so disfunctional with some loosing almost all moorings and others entrenched in a self righteous fort of protection. These cute little billboards are meant to demean and make light of people and gives the distinct impression that the creators of these posters not only know it all, they know who doesn’t.

The Jewish leaders had changed the Word of God and made it according to their own traditions and convenience. They changed the Word and yet get this — Jesus WEPT over Jerusalem. Go ahead and site the money changers table and use that as your everlasting template, but even a cusory reading of the gospels reveal the love and mercy Jesus walked in. And Paul never referred to the money changers incident, he realized that there were some aspects of Jesus life that were His alone because of Who He was.

And if you believe the overturned tables give you the authority to do as He did, then quick being a hypocrite hiding behind mere words. Go down to the emergent church nearest you and physically disrupt the service. Do you know why these watchman will not do that? Because they are cowards and only draw near to the works of Jesus with their lips but never dangerously emulating Him.

Stone throwers are little cowards, cross dwellers are heroes.

Oh, I don’t know… I’d call that “Silva-esque”…

I’d actually like to see some examples of “emergents” dissing their critics that look anything like that insulting shots team pyro has thrown up here.

Haha, I missed Ken’s link to this post in his “missive.” I noticed he didn’t say “Just as Jesus said…” NO, Ken says, “Just as Johnny Mac said…” or something like that. LMAO. that is too funny

the David Cho request/response that is…

Sorry about that Bob, I posted that comment on the wrong post. If you go to the “cheap shots and tragedy” post and click on the “here” link it will take you directly to the post by Phil or Frank or whoever. They are claiming that they are victims because they are “too God centered.” Supposedly this was a charge “levied” by the emergent neo–whatever. David Cho asked for links to prove the veracity of their statement. They couldn’t provide any. Surprised?

He probably meant Scot McKnight agreeing with this guy
Not exactly an “emergent” broadside, is it?

Man, that would be a stretch even for those guys! He doesn’t mention them and to be honest, I don’t ever think of them and Piper in the same thought. I know Piper’s all wrapped in Reformdom but…come on! If that is what they are saying that’s so sad, it’s funny.

“I sometimes feel sorry for the watch doggies. I mean, if I realized that my way of doing church was going to be obsolete in a matter of years with the culture shift taking place around the globe. ”

Then… what? could you complete the sentence, please? isn’t this kind of like the guy in Luke 18 saying “Boy I’m glad I’m not like THAT guy…”

Interestingly as i look over these new posters… I can’t help but want them to make more! I mean with each one we see a spiralling down in that they reveal each dark chamber of their own heart and their own doctrine.

remember these are the “Grace to you” people doing this! Grace to you… seems to have become a mocking ground to put down others.

So, let them keep pumping them out. They show they care little for truth and even less for compassion and have lost sight completely of this “Grace to You”.

Be Blessed,
iggy

Anyone else notice that they turned off their links at Team pyro?

I had a link that connected them with “Grace to you” and it was getting a few hits, then it stopped and I noticed someone turned their “links to this post” link off… makes you go hmmmm.

I guess like a bully they can dish it out but not take it.

blessings
iggy

Thanks Bob for being quiet and not “whining.” You’re a gentleman and a scholar.

See, a set of posters would be
“pointing out Emergent hypocrisy-
Discernment!”

“pointing out Discernment ministry hypocrisy-
Whining!”

Wow… poor Ken.
Must be hard trying to be the Holy Spirit.
And always having to have the last word?

“You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. ”

By Authority of God…

“I find it funny that when the watch doggies criticize others it is discernment from God Himself to His people (after all, isn’t discernment a spiritual gift). When someone defends their beliefs or another brother from false discernment, they call it cruelty. Pretty interesting paradigm they live by.”

You couldn’t give a couple examples could you? The defending, and calling it cruelty part.

I know when I’m cruel, and it’s legit, then i need to make ammends. But I need to hear the evidence before I can do so.