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Posted by Chris L on May 31st, 2007
2007
May 31

Watchdawggie behind closed doorsApparently it is a slow “news” day with Slice 2.0.  Not content with the crass condemnation of an outreach ministry of ‘The Journey’ (which meets in a pub) from CR?N back in March, Ingrid decided to post a “news” item on the exact same reference article today.

I won’t take up much space here, since we responded to their tired legalism back in April, and since we tackled the subject of alcohol a second time - TWICE - when Ken went ballistic over Mars Hill (Seattle) Church’s use of the word ‘cervesa’ in a celebration flier, other than to say that Ingrid’s new article is a perfect example of how little she understands what a ‘church’ is. 

(Also, to note, she can’t even get the basic facts of the story correct - The Journey is a St. Louis church which has one outreach ministry called “Theology at the Bottleworks” which meets in a local pub.  They don’t consider this ministry to be a separate church, but just that - a ministry.  Ingrid acts as if this ministy IS the church, itself, in her rush to gossip judgement.)

That is a lot of things but it just isn’t church. Church is for the worship of a holy God by those with regenerate hearts. We don’t take church and worship to the local bar.

Uhm, Ingrid, the church is not a building or a meeting at a specific time and place during the week.  Each church is a local group of people who work together for the Kingdom and, as part of that kingdom living, worship their Creator.  Unfortunately, this single sentence reveals Ingrid’s stark ignorance of what the church is, and gives a glimpse into modern legalism which is only concerned with externals.

In this particular case, ‘Theology at the Bottleworks’ is a ministry OF the local church (The Journey), which seeks to find lost sheep at a place where lost sheep might congregate - rather than expect that those sheep might wander in to a meeting of the church, say, on Sunday morning.  It is the opposite of the “Seeker Sensitive” services she loves to sneer at, because it does not seek to attract non-Christians to come to where Christians are gathered, but instead to send Christians to where non-Christians might gather.

Unfortunately, as is par for her course, Ingrid completely misses the point in order to smear and snipe at Christians.

6 Responses

  1. Chris P. Says:

    So it must be such a slow news day here that you have to post about something that has already been debated over?
    This blog is as tired as anything.
    Btw, is that you or your dog?

    Have you ever tried to preach to the inebriated?

  2. Chris L Says:

    Chris P,

    I would have ignored this non-story (the same way I ignore all of the Rob Bell re-treads - like today’s - based upon a isogesis of a three-year old interview and a purposefully misconstrued prooftexted passage from Velvet Elvis - no new news (or truth in criticism) yet exists there). However, Ingrid chose to re-tread it in such a way as was illustrative of the primary flaw in her worldview which perceves gossip and nitpicking as “news”…

  3. Chris L Says:

    Chris P,

    Just to get back to you on your last question, all the pictures I have are of watchdawggies, so it wouldn’t be me, my dog or any of ours… Most likely it belongs to Ken, with his Goo-goo Dolls influence…

  4. Ken Silva Says:

    Huh?! O no, that is me in my “We Are The Normal” days before I made a “Name” when made the “Slide” into “Better Days”.

  5. Chris L Says:

    :)

  6. Ken Silva Says:

    Chris L.,

    Aw shucks. Every once and a while we have to smile, eh. :-)