[Reader Warning: Frank discussion of a sexual nature likely in this article and discussion thread.]

Watchdawggie Living a Double LifeIssue: How should Christians respond to pornography and addictions to porn?

Slice/CRN Take: No doubt they see pornography as clearly sinful (as do we).   The solution: avoid it.   If you’re addicted to it?   Get help by going to a good (aka Reformed) church.

What about ministries like xxxChurch?   Mock them for their tactics, offer no real alternatives.

My Take: While I think that Craig Gross, founder of xxxChurch, sometimes takes it too far in driving home his message (like with the inflatable phallus), I think that we often go too far the other direction in not discussing (or even acknowledging) the issue, which creates even more problems in rooting out and dealing with this sin.

Pornography is 100% wrong.  This is clear in scripture.  THAT is what these guys are confronting.

I find it to be a good thing, though, that men like Mr. Gross confront this multi-billion dollar industry which is leading millions into hell, and that they are willing (and able) to confront them on their own turf, while maintaining personal purity and giving a Christ-like witness:

While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and “sinners” came and ate with him and his disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and ’sinners’?”

On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” (Matthew 9:10-13)

I have recommended the X3Watch software, available from xxxChurch, to a number of men, who I know use it with their accountability groups.  Here is how it works:

Let’s say you’re browsing the Internet and you’re looking at porn. The software makes a log of the porn site, and then every two or four weeks your two designated accountability partners will get an email listing all the skin sites you’ve been on. Oh no-busted! Now that’s what we call real accountability. No more secrets!

I also know men who have used xxxChurch’s online’s recovery program, along with attending the Celebrate Recovery program, developed by Saddleback and run at hundreds/thousands of churches, to help men and women escape addictive behaviors – leaving them behind while growing closer to Christ.

The guys from xxxChurch have also been criticized for going to all of the porn conventions in the US and Europe, where they have a booth that gives out Bibles and answers questions from people attending those conventions.  They also have a program to help people in the pornography industry to escape from it.  (I also find it interesting that the same crowd that oozes love for open-air confrontational preachers has disdain for Christians whose very presence in the “lion’s den” is confrontational).

Would Jesus have done this?  Actually, he did.

When Jesus took his disciples on a 16-mile (one way) hike to Caesarea Philippi, he took them to a place that all of the Jewish religious authorities of his time forbade people to go (read more about the context behind this story here).  From the context of the account in Matthew and Mark, it also appears that he was actually within the city complex, which sits at the foot of a cliff called the “Rock of the Gods” with a huge cave in its face, from which a stream flowed, called the “Gates of Hades”.

Caesarea Philippi, culturally, was a place most like the Greco-Roman pagan cities of Asia Minor to which Jesus’ disciples, likely aged 12-20 at the time, were within walking distance.  The open air shrine to Pan, at the base of this cliff, and a goat-woship shrine next to it held pagan rites in which men and women would have sexual relations – in plain view, if we are to believe writers from the time – with each other and with goats.  And what did Jesus say here?

But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. (Matthew 16:15-18)

When these young men went out into the world, they went to places far more disgusting that this to reach people caught up in the filth of that world.

Apparently, there is an event coming up where Craig Gross will be debating a prominent figure in the world of pornography.  This event is, predictably, being mocked by Slice 2.0.  I think that events like this, and the “porn and pancakes” breakfasts where Gross works with Christian men to get them to confess their problems with porn and to help them confront and repent from this behavior.  While some of their methods do seem over-the-top, this issue is such a deep-rooted (and often well-hidden) problem that this may be what it takes to expose and confront hidden sin so that it may be dealt with and removed from those it is killing.

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5 Comments(+Add)

1   Neil    
April 30th, 2007 at 11:59 am

Where do you find those dog picts?

I see he founders are credited as “pastors” – do they pastor church(es) or are they full time with the anti-porn ministry?

Neil

2   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
April 30th, 2007 at 1:23 pm

Neil,

I believe that they are now full-time with this ministry.

3   Jeff Boldt    http://jboldt73.blogspot.com/
April 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm

Chris,

I agree with your assestment here, This is an area that I think CRN looks at something, see’s something that might be offensive on the surface and run with it. However, when evaluated, these guys are taking the issue head on, and it is an issue. sex, and porn is in our face and with it only being a click away it is something that most men (with a moral conscience) need to deal with. I wonder if Mr. Silva will get on here and proclaim that he doesn’t struggle with it? I have said it before CRN has a purpose, they often times take their “calling” too far.

4   Russ N.    http://russ-ramblings.blogspot.com
April 30th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

Chris,

am I more disturbed that Christians are arguing about porn or that you have a picture of a dog in a wig and lingerie???

I know CRN/Slice 2.0 doesn’t like xxxchurch. Like you, other than the inflatable phallus going a bit too far, they are taking the gospel to the people that need it the most. Wasn’t it Steve Taylor who penned “Jesus is for losers” after reading about a porn star proclaiming saving faith in Christ?

Speaking plainly – being at the conferences like that would be much too tempting for me. I’m speculating they have a significant prayer cover. I do know men who have benefited from the xxxchurch software.

5   Ricky Rickard    http://ephesians25.blogspot.com
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:48 am

Here is a different view of xxxchurch, their methods, evangelism, and the porn problem. Worth a listen.

http://www.start.urclearning.org/audio/Jesus_Loves_Pornstars.mp3